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Saturday, September 3rd, 2016
12:24 pm
Демонстрация 1 мая 1949 года, Тель–Авив.
Оригинал взят у kartam47 в Демонстрация 1 мая 1949 года, Тель–Авив.


В первые годы своей современной истории Израиль имел ощутимый социалистический крен.Чему доказательство вот эта фогтография сделанная на празднике 1 мая в Тель-Авиве. Честно сказать впечатляет, такой плакат и вдруг в Израиле.

Tuesday, July 17th, 2012
6:17 pm
Petition to move the American Embassy to Jerusalem
President Barack Hussein Obama
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20500
(202) 456-1111

Dear Mr. President,

On October 23, 1995, the United States Congress passed the Jerusalem Embassy Relocation Act, requiring that the United States move its embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem by May 1999. The law recognized that every nation has the right to designate its own capital and that Israel has so designated Jerusalem as its capital city.

In order to placate Israel’s and America’s enemies abroad, President Bill Clinton signed a national security waiver of the act in June 1999. This injustice has since been replicated by each succeeding President, including you, President Obama, every six months since the waiver was originally signed.

We believe that the time is long overdue for this injustice to be righted. We especially believe this time is important, as Israel’s enemies have been raising the rhetoric regarding Jerusalem.

This includes Egypt’s new President, Muhammad Morsi, who stated, “Our capital shall not be Cairo, Mecca or Medina. It shall be Jerusalem, Allah willing… Jerusalem is our goal. We shall pray in Jerusalem or else we shall die as martyrs on its threshold.”

Instead of inviting Morsi, a leader of the Muslim Brotherhood -- whose Palestinian branch, Hamas, is responsible for well over 1000 murders of Israeli and American citizens -- to the White House, as you have done, it is time to tell him and others that their rhetoric is inexcusable and unacceptable.

Let’s not forget the recent history of Jerusalem, when Jordanians desecrated Jewish holy sites and placed severe restrictions on Christians’ religious liberties.

It is time for America to take a stand for our friend Israel and against our common enemies. It is time to tell the world that there is only one owner of Jerusalem and that is Israel.

We the undersigned hereby call on you to forgo any further waivers of the Jerusalem Embassy Act and to once and for all relocate the American Embassy in Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.

You should do this not only because it is law, but it is the right thing to do.




You can print out, sign and mail this petition or you can sign it online at www.MoveEmbassyToJerusalem.com.

This petition is the initiative of Joe Kaufman, candidate for the United States Congress in Florida.
Click on this banner to support Joe and help him take this fight to Washington.
Saturday, August 23rd, 2008
1:19 pm
Hey all,
Just thought I'd let you know of forums that are set on hopefully changing the world. We're all about politics, beliefs, causes, petitions and awareness.
It's a community of engaging debates including looking for the meaning of life, superficialities, peace in the Middle East, the way our world is run and going.

But, don't be scared, we also know how to have fun. =]]
Would love to you see there.


Monday, August 11th, 2008
7:04 pm
add_a_radical Is a new and fun community for meeting other bloggers with not-so-common political views. Radicals from the left and right and any other direction you can think of! Anyone is welcome to join and look for friends to add, but we must remind you to please READ the rules before you post.
Monday, December 24th, 2007
8:12 am
Join our new community for Asians — azn_perspective.
Tuesday, November 27th, 2007
12:51 am
Friday, June 22nd, 2007
4:13 pm
مخطط لعملية إجلاء الرعايا الروس من قطاع غزة

Here the same thing but in Russian.
Monday, December 18th, 2006
5:46 pm
Israel/Palestine Peace Icons
In the spirit of Christmas and the New Year, I wanted to express my deepest sympathies to those engulfed in the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, with the hope that 2007 will bring positive change to such a troubled corner of the world. Whichever side of the issue you support, hopefully everyone can agree that the conflict has produced ultimately devistating results, for both Israelis and Palestinians. Perhaps if these icons aren't too imposing, you might offer your support...

1. 2. 3. 4.

Credit isn't necessary for those who wish to support peace between Israel and Palestine.

x-posted to various pro-Israel, pro-Palestine and pro-Peace communities.

Happy holidays!
Wednesday, December 13th, 2006
7:24 pm
Most people explore the world and themselves by way of suffering: war, disease, hatred. Therefore, an enemy is absolutely required - a Jew, an Arab, an American, a Chinese, a Russian - it does not matter who. But the world is explored and is learnable by way of concsiousness, forgiveness, gratitude, co-operation, happiness. Do try it! I am inviting you, and even can teach to.
Friday, November 10th, 2006
12:57 am
Hi, I'm really interested in what people think about this question and I'd greatly appreciate your answer. Thank you.

In your opinion why did Osama Bin Laden attack the World Trade Centers?

P.S. This is for my own personal curiosity.

All answers will be screened.
Tuesday, August 1st, 2006
12:00 pm
Haifa, kontei, translation from Russian
...under the command of a ram.

The flock of rams under the command of a lion is much more efficient than the flock of lions under the command of a ram.

Instead of the epigraph :(

I have a feeling that it's time to leave this country. Or it's time to prosecute its government, speaking not only of the present one, but also of all MPs and ministers for the last 10 years minimum. Either this or that.
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Read all the text:
Sunday, July 23rd, 2006
1:28 pm
North of Israel - now
Those who are interested in translations of Russian blogs from the North of Israel can read the compilation of blogs of Russian-speaking residents of northern Israel, translated into English. All of these blogs were started prior to the launch of the current military campaignin Lebanon. The authors describe how the war has been affecting their daily living:israelnorthblog
10:50 am
A History of Violence

"It’s very important to make the distinction between terror groups and freedom fighters, and between terror action and legitimate military action." So said the former Prime Minister of Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu, at a commemoration last week of the sixtieth anniversary of the bombing of the King David's Hotel in Jerusalem. The attack was carried out by a Jewish 'resistance branch', disguised as Arabs, and killed ninety-two people, seventeen of whom were Jewish. It made an important contribution to forcing the British out of Palestine and to the foundation of the Israeli state two years later. The group that carried it out was led by the future sixth Prime Minister of Israel, Menachem Begin.

So when Israel insists that it has a long-standing 'problem' with terrorism, it has a very good point.

That propensity towards using high levels of many different varieties of violence to get others to do what you want them to is now backed up by more advanced and expensive technology than mere milk churns contaning explosives. The BBC reported last week that the current Prime Minister had ordered the use of something called 'nocturnal sound bombs' in order to:

"...make sure no one sleeps at night in Gaza".

On salon.com Sandy Tolan summed up the situation as it stood about two weeks ago - before the attacks on Lebanon:

Under the pretext of forcing the release of a single soldier "kidnapped by terrorists" (or, if you prefer, "captured by the resistance"), Israel has done the following: seized members of a democratically elected government; bombed its interior ministry, the prime minister's offices, and a school; threatened another sovereign state (Syria) with a menacing overflight; dropped leaflets from the air, warning of harm to the civilian population if it does not "follow all orders of the IDF" (Israel Defense Forces); ...fired missiles into residential areas, killing children; and demolished a power station that was the sole generator of electricity and running water for hundreds of thousands of Gazans.

Besieged Palestinian families, trapped in a locked-up Gaza, are in many cases down to one meal a day, eaten in candlelight. Yet their desperate conditions go largely ignored by a world accustomed to extreme Israeli measures in the name of security: nearly 10,000 Palestinians locked in Israeli jails, many without charge; 4,000 Gaza and West Bank homes demolished since 2000 and hundreds of acres of olive groves plowed under; three times as many civilians killed as in Israel, many due to "collateral damage" in operations involving the assassination of suspected militants.

What will be the consequences of Israel's refusal to let its neighbours sleep? On a demonstration in London yesterday, the leader of the British Muslim Institute drew confused cheers from sections of the crowd when he promised that those leaders who condone and promote Israel's right to terrorise adjoining countries will soon face 'revenge'.

Unfortunately, unlike the Palestinians, Tony Blair and George Bush can sleep soundly in their beds. Such 'revenge' will not be enacted upon them, but on their citizens - namely ourselves. Given Blair's refusal to understand the connection between the wars in Iraq and the July bombings, it is quite unlikely that he has considered this. He knows he will never be at personal risk of terrorist attacks. Read more...Collapse )
Wednesday, May 17th, 2006
3:43 am
Israelis show solidarity with hebron residents...
but not the ones you would think from looking at the headline. Descendants of the Jewish residents of Hebron killed in the 1929 massacre that purged the city of its millenia old jewish community showed up yesterday in solidarity with palestinian residents of Hebron, asserting that the current crop of violent, radical, racist settlers in that city were a disgrace to the memory of the original jewish community and that the current jewish residents have "no legitimacy" to act in their names.


This by the way is reflective of the views of the vast majority of Israeli citizens, and even a large number of their fellow west bank settlers. A testament to this fact is the rather significant boost in the public opinion polls Kadima received after then interim prime minister Ehud Olmert ordered the Mishmar Hagvul in there to billy club the settlers out of the market area they had forced their way into and set up shop in.

Which in the end tends to fly in the face of those who would cite the hebron settlers as a representative example of settlers and settlements in general, as they seem fond of doing.

I think someone should xpost the article to the free_palestine community but if I do it the whiners like kynn are going to start bleating again how the community is being overrun by teh evul zionists.
Monday, May 8th, 2006
2:20 am
A study commissioned by the BBC board of governors.
Personally I think its extremely well done. I can find nothing to criticize about their methodology or in their conclusions. their reccomendations have the potential to become a very good model for other media organizations to follow in their coverage of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.


Those with a background in mass communications and media content analysis, as well as some basic understanding quantitative methodology will have the easiest time understanding and appreciating all elements of this document.

The study surveys a time period of coverage between august 2005 and january 2006. It does not assert a bias against either the Israelis or the Palestinians, but rather points out weaknesses and definiciencies in coverage that could create misleading impressions and suggests solutions to these problems.
Tuesday, April 11th, 2006
9:17 pm
Tuesday, January 17th, 2006
11:03 am
Study: Arab Leaders More Extreme than their Public

an article from YNET (the web edition of israels largest circulating newspaper) discusses a study by professor Sammy Smooha of University of Haifa. I've read his stuff, he is very professional and has a good ability to keep his politics by and large seperate from his work. Ideologically he isnt exactly a likud voter if you know what I mean. that makes these results all the more credible.

What it is is a study where executives of Israeli Arab knesset parties are surveyed and several thousand of their parties' registered voters are likewise surveyed.

The conclusions are that by a large margin, the positions of the leadership of these parties (and the politicians representing them) are far more radical and extreme than the electorate they claim to represent.

Its worth noting that only a very small percentage of Israeli Arabs (of which something like 95% are palestinian muslim) actually vote for Arab Parties. In spite of having a HIGHER voter turnout rate than Israeli Jews, only 28 percent of them vote for Arab Parties. the other 72 percent vote for Jewish parties, including in years past the National Religious Party.

Smooha suggests in a quote in this article that it should be clear that among those 72% or so voting for Jewish Parties it should be assumed that the discrepancies are significantly higher.
Wednesday, January 4th, 2006
3:15 pm
Walk On Water
Hi! I am a Canadian high school student currently taking several courses in world issues, politics, history, etc. Although I'm not Jewish/Israeli/Muslim/Arabic myself (although my dad is Jewish and so are a lot of my friends & extended family), I wanted to join this community because I've recently been studying the Middle East and have found that I'm really interested in the topic. Is that alright?? I wasn't sure who this community was for or if it had any restrictions...if so, please let me know and I'll delete my post.

A few days ago I watched an Israeli film called Walk On Water. I'm don't know if anyone here has seen it (if you haven't, I highly recommend it!) but there was one scene which jumped out at me in particular: an Israeli Mossad agent (played by Lior Ashkenazi) disguised as a tour guide is driving two Germans - who are the grandchildren of some Nazi war criminal - around Jerusalem. One of them has an Arab-Israeli friend with him and asks if they can give him a ride. The agent says sure, but when he learns where the man lives (obviously an Arab neighborhood) he is clearly not so excited about the idea. Then, when one of the Germans makes a sympathetic comment about the poor Arab shopkeepers they see on the street, the agent goes off on this rampage in Hebrew. The Germans can't understand him, but the friend does, and looks really offended.

I was wondering if anyone knew whether or not this frequently happens in Israel? I don't think its surprising at all for Israelis to be cautious - even annoyed and down right contemptuous - towards the Palestinians, but are Arab-Israelis ever sort of caught in the cross fire? Are they segregated or prejudiced against? Does anyone live in Israel or have experience traveling there, and might know the answer? I'm not really trying to make a point either way, I was just wondering. Anyway, thanks so much for reading. I hope you all have a happy new year! :-)

Current Mood: curious
Friday, December 23rd, 2005
7:30 pm
Israeli Army Requirements

Someone on Jewish Connection told me that being in the army is required for all Israeli citizens, even women. Is this true? Do you think this is a good thing? The guy that told me on Jewish Connection is from Israel and said he served in the army there for about 3 years. I am making a discussion there too about it but I wanted more feedback and opinions.

What happens to you if you don't want to join the army?

Is there any way to avoid the army...like what happened during Vietnam when people would "dissapear" and go to Canada?

I know that Israel is constantly under attack, so this does make a lot of sense to me if it is true...

Go to Jewish Connection and give some feedback there too. http://www.JewishConnection.com You can join clubs there and make disucssions. There are also classifieds and events and you can make friends and date.



8:50 am
We must accept mutual loss.
These may not be popular views here, and this may be a little theory-heavy. Forgive me if you find this inappropriate for the forum.

I'm thinking about a theory of loss divorced from expenditure. Loss that comes not from spending too much, but from having too little. It seems to me that the notion of expenditure, while valuable, gives theoretical preference to the manners of the rich, to those with access to excess.

Given the uneven allocation of resources on this planet, the majority of loss comes from an excess of people over resources, not of funds and certainly not of time or energy. What may seem like a paradox (or maybe just ill-founded logic) here is the idea that a lack itself may constitute a loss. A loss, after all, suggests that a person had something to begin with. I haven't lost a million dollars - I never had a million dollars. The loss intrinsic in a lack is not a material or quantitative loss, but a qualitative loss of identity and/or humanity. I'm thinking specifically here about ethnic/land struggles, and Israel/Palestine in particular.

What type of loss is at work in Palestine/Israel? What is to be learned from this conflict that is not a war (although it bears some resemblance to a war, and may be in the interest of certain groups to label it as such) and that is also not only an occupation? It's certainly not a strictly colonial endeavor, either, but a prolonged struggle - on both sides (if there can be a "both sides") - for the land, and for landed sovereignty. This is a struggle in which both sides consider themselves victims, both sides consider themselves refugees, and yet both sides consider themselves entitled to the land they sit on. This is a struggle that necessarily entails enormous loss.

The price that one side may "win" and peace may ensue is too great, too terrible, to be hoped for - and this is one way in which this struggle both resembles and differentiates itself from a war. War, at least from the 18th to the first half of the 20th centuries, allows a build-up of forces, leading to a final orgasmic act that will bring one side to concede. Whether this holds true for any war from Vietnam forward is another question. The technology of war has become so unevenly distributed that the tactics of violence differentiate one "side" from another, providing a disconnect between action and response. The West no longer "engages" in war - it has no one to engage with. Treaties have been signed and agreements made according to type of weaponry, or, rather, violent technology is allocated according to treaties: only our allies are even allowed by international law to build nuclear weapons, and only our allies can afford the sort of arms build-up (expenditure) along the lines of American defense spending.

Loss must come first. So what can be taken from the postmodern/postcolonial war of late capitalism? What theory of loss may be derived from the indefinite struggle underway in Palestine, Israel, and Iraq?

We must accept mutual loss. "We" will always lose in the Middle East. "We" - Israel - will always lose in the Middle East. "We" - Palestine - will always lose in the Middle East. "We" - the United States - will always lose in the Middle East. Wherever there is a "we" - we will lose in the Middle East, because the struggle will continue. At least, "we" cannot win. Even more than "I" will lose - "we" will lose itself completely. It's true: right of return for Palestinians is suicide for the Jewish state. But to continue to deny right of return to Palestinians is moral/ethical suicide, which is something Jews cannot, should not abide by. We - whoever "we" is - must accept that loss of part of ourselves, that part of "we," without which "we" undergoes a complete transformation - it cannot be the same.

I'm not saying that the "we" becomes subsumed in peace or justice. On the contrary, I'm suggesting the possibility that peace and justice have no place in this conflict. That peace may be war by other means, and that even the notion of justice needs to be reexamined and possibly given up in the context of Israel/Palestine. There can be no justice for Palestine, or for the Jewish people. There are certain wrongs which can't be righted.

We must accept mutual loss. In order to regain any sort of moral ground, Jews must accept the Palestinian right of return, which is in effect loss of a Jewish state. And Palestinians must give up justice. For Jews, this doesn't necessarily mean a loss of Israel or a loss of Zion, but maybe actually an acceptance of Israel - Yisrael - "he who struggles with God" - with oneself, with one's other. For Palestinians - and for their breathren and sympathizers around the world - this doesn't mean a forgetting, only memory without retribution.

We must accept mutual loss. In losing these things most important for us - these ideas we have died for, we will lose ourselves. We will have lost and we will be lost. The loss of a Jewish state and the loss of justice is perhaps more than I can comprehend, and it is without a doubt more than "we" can comprehend. The categories by which we have defined ourselves, and above all how we have define ourselves together, will and must be lost. And so emerges a new configuration of "we," perhaps one that acnowledges more than two sides and their multiple allegiences, one that provides for the Christian Palestinian and the Mizrachi Jew, without making these simply new segments of a population. We should remember that in losing ourselves, we only lose that which has been given to us, that which is always already disciplined. While a lack may constitute a loss, a loss surprisingly does not constitute a lack. In losing parts of ourselves, we don't create holes to be filled, but a new configuration of who we are, and like puzzle pieces, may find we fit together better that way.

We must accept mutual loss - and mourn. This loss isn't something to be celebrated. These are great and terrible parts of ourselves that we are losing. To embrace loss - to celebrate loss - opens it up to new levels of normalization. We must accept we are not creating. It's possible that in the forseeable future we cannot create together. We are losing, we are chipping away from mutually exclusive lives in order that they may coincide. We are losing, and we will live in paradox. We will not live in peace or justice, or rather, we will live in a different kind of peace and justice, but one I can't quite imagine to theorize.

We must accept mutual loss.
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